1 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:11,169 [Music] 2 00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:14,030 thank you uh so yeah I'm Sarah Miller 3 00:00:18,470 --> 00:00:15,839 I'm working with Professor Brittany 4 00:00:20,689 --> 00:00:18,480 Schmidt at Cornell University and I am 5 00:00:23,510 --> 00:00:20,699 working to build a global circulation 6 00:00:25,250 --> 00:00:23,520 model for the ocean at Europa 7 00:00:26,810 --> 00:00:25,260 um so before we move on I wanted to kind 8 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:26,820 of point out the cover image I chose 9 00:00:30,589 --> 00:00:29,039 which is primarily because I thought the 10 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:30,599 colors made for a pretty PowerPoint 11 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,120 theme and secondarily because it shows 12 00:00:37,610 --> 00:00:35,520 some interesting kind of structures that 13 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:37,620 exist on the ice crust on Europa so as 14 00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:39,300 you can see it's not a smooth ice 15 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:41,700 skating rink it's a very interesting and 16 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:44,520 geologically active Zone which hints 17 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,800 that probably the interior is a dynamic 18 00:00:50,569 --> 00:00:48,239 and very interesting place to study 19 00:00:53,209 --> 00:00:50,579 which is what I'm going to talk about 20 00:00:54,889 --> 00:00:53,219 next before I dive into the science I do 21 00:00:56,330 --> 00:00:54,899 want to take a moment to thank my team 22 00:00:58,610 --> 00:00:56,340 and kind of the people who have helped 23 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:58,620 me bring my understanding 24 00:01:01,549 --> 00:01:00,000 um in this field up so I have a 25 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:01,559 background in fluid dynamics and 26 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:03,120 aerospace engineering which I'll talk a 27 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:04,440 little bit about throughout this talk 28 00:01:08,090 --> 00:01:05,880 but these people have been really 29 00:01:09,890 --> 00:01:08,100 instrumental in kind of working with me 30 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:09,900 on the planetary aspect as well as my 31 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:12,960 funding sources through an NSF grfp and 32 00:01:17,090 --> 00:01:14,760 a NASA finest in an Amelia Earhart 33 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:17,100 fellowship and some wonderful people who 34 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:18,479 support this work 35 00:01:22,670 --> 00:01:21,000 okay so as I mentioned uh Europa has a 36 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:22,680 very interesting surface and it hints 37 00:01:28,730 --> 00:01:26,700 that there is a dynamic ocean interior 38 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:28,740 and I think that the ocean circulation 39 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:30,659 the physical oceanography piece of this 40 00:01:34,070 --> 00:01:32,460 puzzle is a really interesting one in 41 00:01:35,690 --> 00:01:34,080 terms of habitability because when we 42 00:01:37,609 --> 00:01:35,700 look at Earth's ocean 43 00:01:39,710 --> 00:01:37,619 um the transport of heat and salt and 44 00:01:41,630 --> 00:01:39,720 nutrients throughout the ocean column is 45 00:01:42,530 --> 00:01:41,640 really what sustains our biosphere so I 46 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,540 think it has really interesting 47 00:01:47,149 --> 00:01:44,159 habitability implications on other 48 00:01:48,770 --> 00:01:47,159 planets as well and specifically I want 49 00:01:51,830 --> 00:01:48,780 to narrow this down even further the 50 00:01:54,350 --> 00:01:51,840 region of our ocean that separates the 51 00:01:56,929 --> 00:01:54,360 glacial glacially covered parts of our 52 00:01:58,850 --> 00:01:56,939 ocean from the liquid layer that ice 53 00:02:01,010 --> 00:01:58,860 ocean boundary layer is really 54 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:01,020 instrumental in setting far-field ocean 55 00:02:04,730 --> 00:02:03,299 properties so that tiny boundary layer 56 00:02:07,249 --> 00:02:04,740 region between the ice and the ocean 57 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:07,259 actually has an outsized effect on 58 00:02:12,350 --> 00:02:09,660 affecting Global Mass Water mass 59 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,360 transport and so I think that's very 60 00:02:17,089 --> 00:02:14,640 much worthy of intense study in the 61 00:02:19,130 --> 00:02:17,099 modeling realm for Europa 62 00:02:21,229 --> 00:02:19,140 so I'm not the first person to attempt 63 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:21,239 to build a global circulation model for 64 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:22,560 Europa 65 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:24,239 um but the the state of the field is 66 00:02:29,150 --> 00:02:27,420 really kind of Divergent so um models of 67 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:29,160 Europa generally fall into one of two 68 00:02:33,290 --> 00:02:31,680 categories depending on kind of how you 69 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:33,300 set your boundary conditions and really 70 00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:35,360 how you set up this ice ocean interface 71 00:02:39,650 --> 00:02:38,040 mathematically so usually there's kind 72 00:02:42,770 --> 00:02:39,660 of an outsized effect of either the 73 00:02:44,449 --> 00:02:42,780 rotation driven or buoyancy driven so 74 00:02:47,630 --> 00:02:44,459 kind of temperature salinity gradients 75 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:47,640 in the model and the results are very 76 00:02:51,890 --> 00:02:50,280 different so Global circulation models 77 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:51,900 exist they usually fall into one of 78 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:53,400 these two categories and they do not 79 00:02:57,170 --> 00:02:55,620 agree with each other now if we look at 80 00:02:59,210 --> 00:02:57,180 terrestrial Ocean Models on the other 81 00:03:00,350 --> 00:02:59,220 hand they look very different and that's 82 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:00,360 because they've had a lot more 83 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:03,000 scientific Manpower in years of study 84 00:03:09,170 --> 00:03:06,239 and actual data so how nice for them so 85 00:03:10,910 --> 00:03:09,180 their models are very sophisticated 86 00:03:12,530 --> 00:03:10,920 compared to what we see in planetary 87 00:03:14,449 --> 00:03:12,540 Ocean Models 88 00:03:15,770 --> 00:03:14,459 that being said there are still kind of 89 00:03:18,410 --> 00:03:15,780 parts of Earth's ocean that we don't 90 00:03:20,270 --> 00:03:18,420 understand so it's very much ocean 91 00:03:22,130 --> 00:03:20,280 modeling is an active area of research 92 00:03:23,809 --> 00:03:22,140 and there's still some mechanisms that 93 00:03:25,729 --> 00:03:23,819 remain poorly constrained which is 94 00:03:28,190 --> 00:03:25,739 really humbling to think about doing 95 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:28,200 this on a body that we have zero data 96 00:03:33,949 --> 00:03:31,260 for and know a lot less about 97 00:03:35,210 --> 00:03:33,959 but I'm going to try anyway 98 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:35,220 um so let me introduce you to the tool 99 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:36,840 that I'm using so I'm using the MIT 100 00:03:43,449 --> 00:03:39,920 General circulation model so it's a 3D 101 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:43,459 circulation model that employs the full 102 00:03:47,570 --> 00:03:45,840 non-hydrostatic incompressible navier 103 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:47,580 Stokes equations 104 00:03:51,649 --> 00:03:49,260 it also has some really interesting and 105 00:03:53,390 --> 00:03:51,659 very useful packages for Europa so an 106 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:53,400 ice shelf package 107 00:03:56,030 --> 00:03:54,000 um 108 00:03:58,250 --> 00:03:56,040 a deep convection package which is 109 00:04:00,350 --> 00:03:58,260 really helpful because Europa unlike 110 00:04:03,170 --> 00:04:00,360 Earth has a really deep ocean compared 111 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:03,180 to its planetary radius and that is 112 00:04:07,309 --> 00:04:04,379 important when you're talking about 113 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:07,319 large scale flow features so I won't 114 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:09,060 kind of dive into the nitty-gritty it's 115 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:10,560 written in Fortran 116 00:04:15,289 --> 00:04:12,239 um so if you're a modeler you're 117 00:04:18,469 --> 00:04:15,299 probably just cringed uh but yeah it's a 118 00:04:19,969 --> 00:04:18,479 very powerful very useful tool 119 00:04:21,890 --> 00:04:19,979 so there's lots of knobs that you can 120 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:21,900 turn within this model and I'm working 121 00:04:25,370 --> 00:04:23,580 on turning kind of all of these through 122 00:04:27,290 --> 00:04:25,380 sensitivity studies throughout my PhD 123 00:04:29,689 --> 00:04:27,300 but what I want to focus on in this talk 124 00:04:32,090 --> 00:04:29,699 is the role of topography underneath the 125 00:04:34,490 --> 00:04:32,100 ice shelf so in this case I'm talking 126 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:34,500 about both the small scale topography so 127 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:36,660 surfness roughness surface roughness of 128 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:39,000 the ice which affects things like 129 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:42,060 turbulence in the boundary layer as well 130 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:45,000 as large scale features on the ice that 131 00:04:48,770 --> 00:04:47,280 can form large scale flow features now 132 00:04:51,050 --> 00:04:48,780 you might be thinking like why would a 133 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:51,060 turbulent boundary layer affect global 134 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:52,560 ocean circulation 135 00:04:58,249 --> 00:04:55,860 and specifically habitability for this 136 00:05:00,110 --> 00:04:58,259 interest and I want you to remember that 137 00:05:03,170 --> 00:05:00,120 the ocean time scales operate a lot 138 00:05:04,909 --> 00:05:03,180 faster than planetary time scales and 139 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:04,919 that could be an important link for a 140 00:05:09,290 --> 00:05:07,380 habitability argument 141 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:09,300 so quick review of kind of boundary 142 00:05:12,770 --> 00:05:11,280 layer of physics 143 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:12,780 um I took out the full equations because 144 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,160 they're pretty ugly and I just have 145 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:16,400 these like nice kind of simplified 146 00:05:20,830 --> 00:05:19,020 relationships that I want to discuss 147 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:20,840 um so I'm using kind of a widely adopted 148 00:05:24,770 --> 00:05:22,560 parameterization called the three 149 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:24,780 equation parameterization it's very 150 00:05:29,150 --> 00:05:27,300 creatively named and essentially it's 151 00:05:32,330 --> 00:05:29,160 just looking at this fluxes those are 152 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:32,340 those Q values between a solid ice shelf 153 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:35,820 which is fresh water or fresh ice a 154 00:05:40,670 --> 00:05:38,400 mixed boundary layer region and then the 155 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:40,680 mixed layer the liquid ocean 156 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:42,300 so we're looking at kind of the three 157 00:05:45,529 --> 00:05:44,220 unknowns in these equations are the 158 00:05:48,650 --> 00:05:45,539 temperature and salinity of the boundary 159 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:48,660 layer as well as a melt rate or MDOT 160 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:50,280 which is negative if it's melting 161 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:53,280 positive if it's freezing and that's 162 00:05:58,730 --> 00:05:55,320 kind of how we're constraining the phase 163 00:06:01,249 --> 00:05:58,740 change that's happening at this region 164 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:01,259 so I'm using a model that's um 165 00:06:07,969 --> 00:06:03,840 kind of an ongoing International effort 166 00:06:10,850 --> 00:06:07,979 within the MIT GCM Community to uh 167 00:06:12,890 --> 00:06:10,860 model this kind of physics 168 00:06:15,050 --> 00:06:12,900 um for Earth's ocean and so this is a 169 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:15,060 simplified version of that map and so 170 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:16,560 it's a two equation parameterization 171 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,960 that's assuming the salinity of the 172 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:20,400 boundary layer and the mixed layer is 173 00:06:23,930 --> 00:06:22,080 the same 174 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:23,940 um current research and kind of more 175 00:06:27,770 --> 00:06:25,860 recent results since submitting this 176 00:06:29,570 --> 00:06:27,780 abstract I've been able to like use the 177 00:06:32,090 --> 00:06:29,580 three equation parameterization but 178 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,100 those graphs are still pretty ugly so 179 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:34,319 maybe next at gradcon 180 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:35,639 um 181 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:37,560 yeah and kind of one other thing that's 182 00:06:41,809 --> 00:06:39,360 very common on Earth but not a great 183 00:06:45,010 --> 00:06:41,819 approximation for Europa is that often 184 00:06:47,809 --> 00:06:45,020 in Ocean Models the pressure dependence 185 00:06:49,850 --> 00:06:47,819 of density is approximated by depth 186 00:06:52,430 --> 00:06:49,860 dependence I mentioned that europa's 187 00:06:53,809 --> 00:06:52,440 ocean is a lot deeper than Earth's so 188 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:53,819 this is something that I've removed as 189 00:06:57,950 --> 00:06:55,080 well because I think 190 00:07:01,010 --> 00:06:57,960 no longer holds for europa's ocean 191 00:07:03,469 --> 00:07:01,020 so I mentioned it's probably not like a 192 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:03,479 flat ice skating rink under europa's eye 193 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:04,800 shell we don't know what it looks like 194 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:06,900 but it's probably not that beautiful and 195 00:07:09,409 --> 00:07:07,800 simple 196 00:07:11,210 --> 00:07:09,419 um it's probably not this beautiful and 197 00:07:13,129 --> 00:07:11,220 simple either but to start with to kind 198 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:13,139 of demonstrate some of the flow features 199 00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:14,400 that might develop with ice shelf 200 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:16,380 topography here's like a very simple 201 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:19,860 ramp that I'm introducing so it's not a 202 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:22,280 global model quite yet it's just a 203 00:07:26,089 --> 00:07:25,199 rectangular domain starting at a fixed 204 00:07:27,650 --> 00:07:26,099 initial 205 00:07:28,309 --> 00:07:27,660 temperature 206 00:07:30,589 --> 00:07:28,319 um 207 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:30,599 and we're going to introduce a heat 208 00:07:36,589 --> 00:07:33,840 gradient and a flow through ice melting 209 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:36,599 and see what develops 210 00:07:40,909 --> 00:07:38,639 so we're seeing some already just with 211 00:07:42,770 --> 00:07:40,919 very simple geometry interesting and 212 00:07:44,749 --> 00:07:42,780 kind of recognizable flow features so we 213 00:07:46,249 --> 00:07:44,759 see the development of what looks kind 214 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,259 of like a western boundary current on 215 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:48,240 the left and an ocean gyre on the right 216 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:49,979 and these are happening because there is 217 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:53,280 melting happening at depth so if you 218 00:07:56,330 --> 00:07:54,720 remember the phase diagram of water 219 00:07:59,089 --> 00:07:56,340 there is a pressure dependence on the 220 00:08:00,830 --> 00:07:59,099 melting point of ice and so we see 221 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:00,840 melting happening on the bottom of this 222 00:08:06,170 --> 00:08:03,300 ramp and then as the fresh waters Rising 223 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:06,180 along the Melt water the ramp it's 224 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:07,919 circulating and that's creating a 225 00:08:14,029 --> 00:08:11,520 circular flow feature this dryer 226 00:08:16,249 --> 00:08:14,039 so we have on the left these are just 227 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:16,259 stream functions the barotrope extreme 228 00:08:19,969 --> 00:08:18,300 function and then the right and 229 00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:19,979 overturning stream function just in a 230 00:08:24,110 --> 00:08:21,720 couple different directions 231 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:24,120 so maybe more importantly uh 232 00:08:28,189 --> 00:08:26,520 the Melt rate what's happening so we're 233 00:08:30,290 --> 00:08:28,199 seeing both regions of melting and 234 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:30,300 freezing The Contours got a little dense 235 00:08:33,649 --> 00:08:31,740 for the melting so I just kind of 236 00:08:36,949 --> 00:08:33,659 outlined that where that's happening 237 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:36,959 there but that's happening um kind of as 238 00:08:42,469 --> 00:08:39,060 the warmer Ocean mixed layer water is 239 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:42,479 interacting with this Frozen ramp 240 00:08:47,090 --> 00:08:44,880 and so we see that kind of 241 00:08:48,769 --> 00:08:47,100 um already just very simple geometry 242 00:08:50,690 --> 00:08:48,779 there's lots of Dynamics happening 243 00:08:52,430 --> 00:08:50,700 there's freezing there's melting there's 244 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:52,440 flow features 245 00:08:56,509 --> 00:08:53,279 um 246 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,519 but this is probably not very realistic 247 00:09:01,130 --> 00:08:58,320 maybe more realistic is something like 248 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:01,140 this so 249 00:09:07,490 --> 00:09:04,200 this is a almost Global 250 00:09:09,769 --> 00:09:07,500 um topography that I stole from what 251 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:09,779 Earth's ice shelves look like I cut out 252 00:09:14,090 --> 00:09:11,600 the poles because of convergence issues 253 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:14,100 and it's a pretty coarse resolution but 254 00:09:18,009 --> 00:09:15,839 it still captures a lot of the large 255 00:09:20,329 --> 00:09:18,019 scale flow features that we see on Earth 256 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:20,339 as well as some turbulence and mixing 257 00:09:25,970 --> 00:09:23,120 events effects from small scale features 258 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:25,980 that are missing and so 259 00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:27,420 I think it's really important to think 260 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:29,519 that like when you're modeling 261 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:30,300 um 262 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:32,820 heat transfer like your grid resolution 263 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:35,519 is really important so the size of your 264 00:09:39,889 --> 00:09:38,040 grid cell in your model affects kind of 265 00:09:41,810 --> 00:09:39,899 how quickly heat is transferred through 266 00:09:43,490 --> 00:09:41,820 your ocean and so this is really too 267 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:43,500 course to understand 268 00:09:45,949 --> 00:09:44,220 um 269 00:09:49,009 --> 00:09:45,959 what's happening in turbulence and 270 00:09:50,509 --> 00:09:49,019 Boundary layer effects so I'm 271 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:50,519 kind of 272 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:52,740 accommodating that in the model by 273 00:09:58,370 --> 00:09:55,860 modifying the MIT GCM to have like 274 00:10:00,050 --> 00:09:58,380 spatial grid remeshing so I'm slicing up 275 00:10:02,030 --> 00:10:00,060 the grid cells 276 00:10:03,949 --> 00:10:02,040 so that I can have melting and freezing 277 00:10:05,449 --> 00:10:03,959 happening within a single model run 278 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,459 which is not kind of the standard 279 00:10:09,410 --> 00:10:06,800 configuration 280 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:09,420 within the boundary layer so this has 281 00:10:12,410 --> 00:10:11,279 been kind of very helpful in 282 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:12,420 understanding 283 00:10:15,470 --> 00:10:13,320 um 284 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:15,480 turbulence and more quick time scale 285 00:10:23,449 --> 00:10:22,009 now this is kind of one of several 286 00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:23,459 things that needs to happen to have a 287 00:10:27,470 --> 00:10:25,620 more realistic ice shells like greater 288 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:27,480 spatial grid density in the boundary 289 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:28,680 layer 290 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:29,339 um 291 00:10:33,829 --> 00:10:31,680 there's also but even so you know it's 292 00:10:34,430 --> 00:10:33,839 not going to be a simple ramp 293 00:10:36,410 --> 00:10:34,440 um 294 00:10:38,570 --> 00:10:36,420 there's other things to introduce like 295 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:38,580 salt different heat and salt transfer 296 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:40,320 coefficients 297 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:41,760 um 298 00:10:45,710 --> 00:10:43,620 a mushy layer there's interesting work 299 00:10:47,389 --> 00:10:45,720 that's being done by this on this by 300 00:10:48,530 --> 00:10:47,399 Jacob buffo if you want to look at his 301 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:48,540 work 302 00:10:51,410 --> 00:10:49,200 um 303 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:51,420 so in my model currently the ice is 304 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:52,860 assumed as a completely fresh water 305 00:10:57,949 --> 00:10:55,440 layer that's probably not the case there 306 00:11:01,490 --> 00:10:57,959 might be zones or brines and interesting 307 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:01,500 kind of pockets of heterogeneities that 308 00:11:07,009 --> 00:11:05,160 will affect these processes but this is 309 00:11:09,710 --> 00:11:07,019 kind of all just taking steps to like 310 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:09,720 introduce more realistic features into 311 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:12,060 an ice shell model and then look at the 312 00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:14,399 global circulation effects of those 313 00:11:18,110 --> 00:11:16,380 features 314 00:11:20,329 --> 00:11:18,120 so kind of to kind of wrap up this 315 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:20,339 little bit that I've discussed 316 00:11:22,670 --> 00:11:20,940 um 317 00:11:25,090 --> 00:11:22,680 terrestrial models I think can be very 318 00:11:27,710 --> 00:11:25,100 valuable in the planetary Community 319 00:11:28,850 --> 00:11:27,720 within those models specifically I think 320 00:11:30,829 --> 00:11:28,860 there still needs to be a lot of work 321 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:30,839 done on the ice ocean boundary layer 322 00:11:35,690 --> 00:11:33,060 which is what I've been focusing on this 323 00:11:38,329 --> 00:11:35,700 past year of my PhD and the potential 324 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:38,339 impacts for habitability of this kind of 325 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:41,519 great uh resolution on an ISO student 326 00:11:46,490 --> 00:11:43,860 boundary layer could be very important 327 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,500 for habitability 328 00:11:56,510 --> 00:11:48,480 all right and I'm happy to take 329 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,769 [Applause] 330 00:12:08,449 --> 00:12:05,690 so if you are assuming uh so with the 331 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:08,459 mushy layer you know like a slurry for 332 00:12:15,290 --> 00:12:11,760 instance is the Assumption of uh 333 00:12:18,170 --> 00:12:15,300 incompressible fluid still valid and 334 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:18,180 does that change that makes never Stokes 335 00:12:23,930 --> 00:12:20,880 much more complicated right so how would 336 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:23,940 that really affect the your modeling 337 00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:26,100 would you have to change some things or 338 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:28,920 yeah no that's a really good question so 339 00:12:34,130 --> 00:12:31,920 um realistically yes you would change uh 340 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:34,140 the kind of forcing equations so the 341 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:36,300 model as it currently runs it assumes 342 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:37,800 that um 343 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:39,360 kind of backing up a little bit the 344 00:12:42,530 --> 00:12:40,920 equation of state of seawater is a 345 00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:42,540 linear function of salinity so if you 346 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:44,660 introduce something like a brine 347 00:12:49,250 --> 00:12:47,100 it's removing that kind of linear 348 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:49,260 assumption that said like the model as 349 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:51,180 it currently stands it does have a solid 350 00:12:55,370 --> 00:12:52,800 ice layer so it doesn't look at brine 351 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:55,380 Pockets or mushy layers yet 352 00:12:58,490 --> 00:12:55,980 um 353 00:13:01,370 --> 00:12:58,500 if you wanted to do that I do think that 354 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:01,380 yeah you'd need to change the equation 355 00:13:06,110 --> 00:13:04,560 of State at seawater locally yeah to 356 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:06,120 accommodate those and what about the 357 00:13:10,370 --> 00:13:08,880 incompressibility assumption I think 358 00:13:11,870 --> 00:13:10,380 that's a small enough one where if 359 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:11,880 you're looking at the effects on 360 00:13:15,230 --> 00:13:14,040 overturning in flow it wouldn't have an 361 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:15,240 effect but it would be a very cool 362 00:13:25,850 --> 00:13:16,920 sensitivity study so it's a good 363 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:29,329 sorry a really ignorant question so 364 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:31,440 Europa it seems like there's a 365 00:13:35,569 --> 00:13:33,120 very kind of notice 366 00:13:38,329 --> 00:13:35,579 notice gradient is that just due to 367 00:13:40,430 --> 00:13:38,339 pressure kind of like what what's the 368 00:13:42,829 --> 00:13:40,440 middle of Europa oh interesting question 369 00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:42,839 okay I think I have 370 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:45,660 um a backup slide that might help so 371 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:47,399 yeah so the mechanisms that are kind of 372 00:13:52,129 --> 00:13:50,160 important for Europa Heating and what's 373 00:13:54,889 --> 00:13:52,139 sustaining the ocean are like tidal 374 00:13:57,310 --> 00:13:54,899 heating that it bottom heating from 375 00:13:59,690 --> 00:13:57,320 residual heat of formation internal heat 376 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,700 if there is this Dynamic eye shell 377 00:14:03,949 --> 00:14:01,440 that's freezing and melting like I think 378 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:03,959 it is then you have heat fluxes from 379 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:06,000 freezing and melting 380 00:14:08,810 --> 00:14:06,600 um 381 00:14:10,610 --> 00:14:08,820 yeah so there's a lot going on 382 00:14:13,009 --> 00:14:10,620 um the kind of Weights of these effects 383 00:14:14,090 --> 00:14:13,019 is still very much unknown and so that's 384 00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:14,100 why I'm really trying to use 385 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:16,740 observations from Earth so for instance 386 00:14:20,449 --> 00:14:18,600 I'm using like turbulent turbulent 387 00:14:22,490 --> 00:14:20,459 transfer coefficients of freezing and 388 00:14:25,129 --> 00:14:22,500 melting from Antarctic field studies to 389 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:25,139 kind of influence this model but yeah 390 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:26,880 it's really like there's a lot going on 391 00:14:30,110 --> 00:14:28,860 so it's really kind of the challenge is 392 00:14:31,550 --> 00:14:30,120 trying to figure out which one is 393 00:14:32,210 --> 00:14:31,560 driving 394 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:32,220 um 395 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:47,269 okay we have time for one more question 396 00:14:50,689 --> 00:14:49,430 Taylor plattner at Georgia Tech great 397 00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:50,699 talk Sarah 398 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:52,740 um you were talking about Brian Pockets 399 00:14:58,790 --> 00:14:55,260 to like make it the model more realistic 400 00:15:01,910 --> 00:14:58,800 did you have do you plan on doing that 401 00:15:04,189 --> 00:15:01,920 with your model and have they done it on 402 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:04,199 earth like with like Earth models have 403 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:06,720 they even thought of like incorporating 404 00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:08,459 bride pockets 405 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:10,320 yeah it's a good question so the answer 406 00:15:13,790 --> 00:15:12,240 is like no most 407 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:13,800 um like 408 00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:16,500 glacial models and Earth Global ocean 409 00:15:20,269 --> 00:15:18,660 circulation models don't include brine 410 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:20,279 Pockets because on Earth those are more 411 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:22,560 seen in like Lake environments or kind 412 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:25,440 of like the like hyper saline lakes and 413 00:15:27,949 --> 00:15:26,940 Flash bows and lakes that like Jacob 414 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:27,959 works on 415 00:15:30,829 --> 00:15:28,620 um 416 00:15:32,210 --> 00:15:30,839 they might Europe as a yeah different 417 00:15:32,990 --> 00:15:32,220 conditions though 418 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:33,000 um 419 00:15:37,790 --> 00:15:35,040 and so they could exist there so at most 420 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:37,800 I think I would do a like a case study 421 00:15:41,750 --> 00:15:40,320 on what would happen if Brian Pockets 422 00:15:42,650 --> 00:15:41,760 exist so it's something I'm working on 423 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:42,660 now 424 00:15:45,650 --> 00:15:44,040 um but it's not something I'd include in 425 00:15:48,110 --> 00:15:45,660 every run because it's just still very 426 00:15:49,310 --> 00:15:48,120 much an unknown yeah I was going to say 427 00:15:51,410 --> 00:15:49,320 that was kind of like a loaded question 428 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:51,420 but I was curious no it's a good 429 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:02,420 thank you so much for the time 430 00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:08,949 [Music]